February 24, 2004

Dang Birds



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Anyone know how to keep pigeons off your balcony?

Perhaps mistakenly, I didn't shoo them off the balcony last year in time, and when they laid eggs, I didn't want to destroy them, so I let them stay for the duration. Made for an interesting education in pigeon growth, not to mention some blog fodder, but good lord, what an ungodly mess they left! I don't want to surrender my balcony again, or have to clean up that unspeakable carpet of, well, better left unsaid.

Problem is, the same pair have recently taken to appearing on the balcony in the mornings, and I do not wish for them to procreate again on that spot. I try to shoo them away, but the darn flappy bastards keep coming back.

Anyone know a good method of keeping them away? Some kind of scent? A scarecrow? A photo of John Ashcroft?

Posted by Luis at February 24, 2004 10:29 PM
Comments

Hello

How about you hung few CD discs. I think it might work.

Posted by: coco at February 25, 2004 01:11 AM

I've seen big plastic owls employed for this purpose, but they might be considered uglier than the pigeons.

Posted by: jess at February 25, 2004 02:49 AM

Sadly, I think your best bet is to hang some netting... you have to displace them completely for them to get the point.

Posted by: gen at February 25, 2004 02:45 PM

Thanks to all for the comments so far! I might go for hanging the CDs; I don't know where I could get the plastic owl, and unfortunately, the balcony is not made to support netting...

Posted by: Luis at February 25, 2004 02:48 PM

Nets are the best deterrent for pigeons, but there are other options. Some may be against apartment policy?

1. Wire mesh to seal off the eaves and other nice roosting places.
2. Metallic, shiny streamers that blow in the wind
3. Taped sounds of birds of prey
4. You can get ultrasonic deterrents - pricey though.
5. There are chemicals that you can put on the surfaces that are supposedly non toxic, they irritate the birds though, so I wonder how humane they are.
6. Leave your underwear flapping around in the breeze
7. Buy a pet hawk and put his cage on the balcony.

Hope this helps :)

Posted by: Jen at February 26, 2004 03:30 AM

Go for #7.

Posted by: iM at April 12, 2004 08:22 AM

I found a variation of #1--a flimsy netting, held to the balcony roof and rail by duct tape. I haven't heard nor seen them out there since. Once I did find they'd chewed a small hole through, but (a) I don't think they got through it, it would've been a heckuva tight squeeze, (b) it was easy to fix, and (c) if they did get in, and I found them, they'd essentially be trapped.

I'm pretty sure things are taken care of. Finally!

Posted by: Luis at April 12, 2004 09:23 AM

I can't thank you enough for posting those great photos!. I have a lovely couple of (feathered) tenants living on a precariously small window sill at the side of my window-mounted air-conditioner. I've watched them mate, then build a nest, and now I can hear the peep-peeping of their babies-- problem is, they're hidden from VIEW by the slide out "wings" at either side of my air-conditioner, so I'm viewing them as silhouettes. But now I can really visualize how they look, because of your terrific photos!
My big problem is that the vent for the air-conditioner would blow hot air directly onto the nest it I were to turn it on, so now I'm patiently (sweat-sweat-sweat) waiting for the young ones to grow up and leave.
Again-- thanks for letting me see "the real thing" with your photos!
Judy

Posted by: Judy at June 12, 2004 11:25 AM

Judy,

I hope for your sake that the intake vents of your A/C are nowhere near that pigeon nest. You are seeing silhouettes of pigeons and babies? What you're not seeing is the 'mess' that goes along with a pigeon nest.

I'll say this, a plastic owl will not keep them away. I have a sleeve style A/C and I taped some shoe boxes between it and the 'ceiling' of my balcony and that got rid of them until one of the boxes fell off. But they still land on the edge of my balcony. One in particular will flap its way between the rails, right under the plastic owl and sit there all night.

I've lived in an apartment building just over a year now and have come to bitterly hate pigeons... Disgusting rats with wings, fecal matter stubbornly clings to everything. I'm thinking of buying a pellet rifle!

-Nick
Windsor, ON

Posted by: Nick at July 26, 2004 08:15 PM

your post is helpful becuase i have the same problem!

i am wondering how do u get a rid of a nest without wrecking it if its already there?

Posted by: heather gordon at March 27, 2005 09:23 AM

I don't know if that's even possible...

Posted by: Luis at March 28, 2005 05:56 PM

I found the only thing that works is several adjustable tension rods of appropriate height ( found at Home Depot etc.)and monofilament fishing line ( 200 yards - 40lb. test)strung completly around your balcony.Keep line strung tight around rods and layered 6-8 inches apart to top of balcony.

P.S. If you live on the top floor - you are screwed.

Posted by: Dan at March 30, 2005 06:27 AM

like jess said get a plastic owl. we got one for seagulls. they never came back. you can get one at like a hardware store. good luck.

Posted by: janell at April 2, 2005 02:06 AM

Went the plastic owl route plus rubber snakes. These are savvy city pigeons lol. See previous.

Posted by: Dan at April 8, 2005 06:27 AM

do plastic owls really work to detter pigeons ?
And how about using sticky syrup on balcony ledge ???

Posted by: larry at March 24, 2006 02:32 PM

Hi Luis,

Your posting on the pigeons was very informative and thanks for the efforts taken.
I reached this posting after a brief search on the net to learn more about the growth of pigeons. Reason for this is that I am in a similar situation like yours...a couple has nested in my kitchen balcony which was not in use for some time.
We discovered the nest with 2 eggs around 6 weeks ago and we had decided to let them stay till the new ones were ready to move out. After that we were to close the balcony with sliding windows.
Today morning I checked and just saw an empty nest with empty shells and lot of mess but the birds were not there...hopefully they have grown up well and ready for this world.
I just wanted to know how long does it take for a pigeon egg to get into a flying bird and so reached your posting.

Thanks once again and I now need to move fast to close the balcony:-)

Regards,
Shailesh

Posted by: Shailesh at May 24, 2006 05:43 PM

Hey,
I have the same problem and am searching for a humane way to get rid of them and the mess they leave. So I'm wondering what worked for you. Did the CDs work? Was it a success?
Also, I live on the top floor and am wondering how I will ever clean all up after they have finally left. Anything I dump over the side will end up in my neighbors balcony and patio, and on the other side is my white living room carpet.
So any suggestions would be great.
Thanks

Posted by: Mary at June 22, 2006 12:27 PM

Mary:

The CDs made no difference. Nothing did. I finally had to set up a net to keep them out.

Posted by: Luis at June 22, 2006 01:13 PM

It is an excellent idea to remove the birds ASAP and do what ever it takes to keep them away. For motivation, check out this sight http://www.radoslawspiewak.net/2004-5.htm. I hv a pigeons nest which I hv sealed off just outside my window by the air conditioner using packing tape and a plastic bag, plus quite a bit of Raid bug spray. Unfortunately fleas hv still made their way fm the birds to our 2 cats. They are dirty dirty birds. Regardless my husband and I don't hv the heart to dethrone the baby bird, just when it seems he's almost ready to live as an adult. It really is gross! We await his flight anxiously.

Posted by: Jane at October 2, 2006 05:47 AM

I have the same problem. I live on the top floor, and a couple of city pigeons have made a nest, and we have just one egg, I think.

I hadn't used our balcony execpt for storage. The balcony is just outside my living room which has white carpet. There are two pool floatation rafts on the balcony and the pigeons made their nest between the rafts. I was able to see one egg (maybe there is two?) and the pigeon sitting on the egg. The first time I noticed the bird outside on the balcony, it flew towards my face in a panic. I scared it away.

I want to let the baby hatch, grow, and fly away! I think the egg has just recently hatched, as I'm hearing little chirps now. Every morning at about 6:30am I hear wings flapping - which must be momma heading out for the day, while poppa keeps the egg or hatched chick warm.

Thanks so much for your postings, now I have an idea of how long they will be living with us at our home! I will put up netting once the baby finally leaves the nest. These birds are just trying to survive and deserve to be in this world as much as we do! I don't consider them ugly or at all like rats, more like birds.

To all living things...thrive!

Posted by: tina at April 14, 2007 09:00 AM

Mourning Doves (pigeons) just won't stay off our balcony. They drive me nuts. I enjoy other birds such as finches and have a feeder for them and don't want to scare them away. I'm wondering if I get a plastic owl to try to scare away the pigeons if it will also scare away the finches. Although some say the owl doesn't work, I'm willing to give it a try. We live in an apartment and don't have many other options like netting.

Posted by: Elsie at May 10, 2007 09:44 AM

Just a note... try to get rid of the nest a soon as possible. We left ours and now are dealing with a small infestation of bird mites. They are so small they can come through screens and are more difficult to get rid of than fleas. Once the birds leave the nest the mites migrate to the next available blood source. Avoid the headache and just ditch the birds. I wish someone would have told me this weeks ago!

Posted by: stephanie at August 7, 2007 01:46 AM

We just moved here and live on the 7th floor of a 12 story highrise. We now have the fattest little baby residing on our balcony! I have learned so much from reading your comments Luis and it has been very helpful. A couple of questions: Will this baby start walking around my balcony before flying away? It has not even moved from the nest but is almost full size! How will this baby get off my balcony-it will have to fly up up up to get over the top rail as my balcony is closed in by walls. Should I be leaving a water bowl out or let that be up to the parents? This has been a fascinating experience, but next time I will be keeping my eyes out and get them to go to someone else's house!

Posted by: Cathy at August 12, 2007 09:56 AM

Hi.

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Posted by: Richard at August 15, 2007 11:54 AM